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;Was 2.8 Wearing protective equipment, now 8 Protective equipment
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:Intro has been incorporated into 8.1 General requirements
==Change log==
;8.3.4 - Head
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:This section describes the protective clothing and other equipment that you must wear for combat. Your equipment must be designed and worn so that there are no gaps over vital body areas, and no more than incidental gaps over other parts of your body. These are the minimum standards for fencing clothing and equipment. You can wear additional equipment, including appropriate period clothing like hoop skirts or gauntlets with stiffened cuffs, but you need to make sure that you are still able to feel and call "good" blows.
:If you wear a mask, the rest of your head must be covered by at least penetration-resistant material. This can be worn inside or over the mask.
;Now
;Now
:This section describes the protective clothing and other equipment that you must wear for combat.
:If you wear a mask, the rest of your head must be covered by at least abrasion-resistant material. This can be worn inside or over the mask.
:8.1 General requirements
:1. Your armour is to be designed and worn so that no gaps form over vital body areas when you assumes any reasonable position, and no more than incidental gaps on other areas.
::a. If there is a small gap in coverage for areas required to be covered by abrasion-resistant material, such as a loose seam on a glove, then the item is still considered safe and legal.
::b. A "Hold!" should not be called for incidental gapping in abrasion resistant armour, such as a gap between glove and sleeve, or a sock slipping down during a lunge.
:2. These are the minimum standards for fencing clothing and equipment. You can wear additional equipment, including appropriate period clothing like hoop skirts, or additional protective equipment such as a chest protector for comfort, but you need to make sure that you are still able to feel and call "good" blows.
;Functional change
;Functional change
;None
:The required protection has been reduced from penetration-resistant to abrasion-resistant material.
;Reason
;Reason
:Explanatory language, and clearer example, making clear that comfort based safety equipment is legal
:To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a significantly higher rate than penetration injuries
;For notes
:Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.
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;Was 2.8.1.1 in General requirements, now 8.2.1 in Drills
;8.5.1 - Torso
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:Fencing practice sessions can also include drills and other classes that do not involve fighting. During sword or dagger drills with an opponent, you must wear eye protection, such as spectacles, sunglasses, safety glasses or a fencing mask or helm.
:You must wear penetration-resistant material to protect your torso, including your chest, back and abdomen, and your upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit.
;Now
;Now
:During sword or dagger drills with an opponent, you must wear eye protection, such as a fencing mask, helm or safety glasses. Spectacles and sunglasses are not considered eye protection. Eye protection which is not a fencing mask or helm must be rated to at least AS/NZS 1337, and the lens component must be part of the body of the protection (i.e., no separate lenses which can pop out).
:You must wear penetration-resistant material to protect your torso, including your chest, back and abdomen, groin, and your upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit.
;Functional change
;Functional change
:Spectacles and sunglasses are not considered eye protection. Eye protection must meet AS/NZS standards.
:No change
;Reason
;Reason
:There is significant literature noting that spectacles, sunglasses and other equivalent eyewear do not provide protection to the wearer. If there is a concern of eye injury, then this provides appropriate protective standards.
:Changed to explicitly include the word groin as part of the torso requiring coverage by penetration-resistant material for all combatants. This is a clarification of an existing rule, not a change.
;For notes
;For notes
:June 2023 - Eye protection which is not a fencing mask or helm must be rated to at least AS/NZS 1337, and the lens component must be integral to the body of the protection (i.e., no separate lenses which can pop out).
:Not required
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;Was 2.8.1 in General requirements, now 8.2.2 in Drills
;8.6.1 - Legs, feet and arms
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:You must wear full face protection for weapons drills using a spear.
:You must wear abrasion-resistant material on your legs, feet and arms.
;Now
;Now
:You must wear full face protection for weapons drills against an opponent using a spear.
:You may wear abrasion-resistant material on your legs and arms if you prefer, but it is not required. Note that the upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit must be covered by penetration-resistant material.
;Functional change
;Functional change
:You must wear full face protection if you are drilling against an opponent who has a spear, rather than if you are using one yourself
:You no longer have to wear any material on your legs, or arms below 10cm from your armpit. It can be bare skin.
;Reason
;Reason
:Facing the spear is the risky part, not using it.
:To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a higher rate than abrasion injuries.
;For notes section
;For notes
:June 2023 - You must wear full face protection when your opponent has a spear during drills.
:Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.
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;8.7.1 - Hands
===2.8.3.1-2===
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:You must wear a gorget (collar) made from rigid material to protect your entire neck and throat. This should be backed by resilient padding or penetration-resistant material.
:You must wear gloves made of at least abrasion-resistant material to cover your hands and fingers.
;Now
;Now
:You must wear a gorget (collar) made from rigid material to protect your entire neck and throat. This should be backed by resilient padding or penetration-resistant material. Figure 2 shows the area which must be protected.
:It is recommended that your hands and fingers be covered by abrasion-resistant material, but is not required.
:2.8.2 has been removed and replaced by:
:Neck protection with a gap of less than 9mm (for example, where the ends of two plates meet) meets this standard, so long as the gap is not within the front or rear 90 degree arc.
;Functional change
;Functional change
:Clarifies areas that must be covered by rigid material, and what sized gaps may be allowed.
:You no longer have to have any form of hand protection. You can have bare skin.
;Reason
;Reason
:Updates rules to remain practical and more in line with Society requirements, without reducing safety from existing practice.
:To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a higher rate than abrasion injuries.
:The deleted section of this rule has not been enforced since a variation was introduced at least prior to 2008, as the understanding of "cervical verterbrae" differs from what is strictly written. As currently written, gorgets must protect the entire cervical column to the base of the skull, which no known gorgets do so (though gorget combined with rigid back of head protection often does so). This revised rule is equivalent to what fencers in Lochac are currently doing already, and what is accepted international practice. This issue has been raised with SRM on two occasions with no response; I expect because it would require a rapid change, such as what we are proposing here. There is no loss in safety by having a small gap, and Lochac rules are already stricter than Society level rules. Fencing blunts will not be able to penetrate this gap; this clarifies expectations around incidental gaps.
;For notes
;For notes section
:Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.
:June 2023 - Image added to clarify what parts of the neck must be protected by rigid material, and what sized gaps may be allowed.
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Latest revision as of 00:24, 7 May 2025

Notes of things to fix

Change log

8.3.4 - Head
Was
If you wear a mask, the rest of your head must be covered by at least penetration-resistant material. This can be worn inside or over the mask.
Now
If you wear a mask, the rest of your head must be covered by at least abrasion-resistant material. This can be worn inside or over the mask.
Functional change
The required protection has been reduced from penetration-resistant to abrasion-resistant material.
Reason
To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a significantly higher rate than penetration injuries
For notes
Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.

8.5.1 - Torso
Was
You must wear penetration-resistant material to protect your torso, including your chest, back and abdomen, and your upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit.
Now
You must wear penetration-resistant material to protect your torso, including your chest, back and abdomen, groin, and your upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit.
Functional change
No change
Reason
Changed to explicitly include the word groin as part of the torso requiring coverage by penetration-resistant material for all combatants. This is a clarification of an existing rule, not a change.
For notes
Not required

8.6.1 - Legs, feet and arms
Was
You must wear abrasion-resistant material on your legs, feet and arms.
Now
You may wear abrasion-resistant material on your legs and arms if you prefer, but it is not required. Note that the upper arm extending at least 10cm from the armpit must be covered by penetration-resistant material.
Functional change
You no longer have to wear any material on your legs, or arms below 10cm from your armpit. It can be bare skin.
Reason
To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a higher rate than abrasion injuries.
For notes
Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.

8.7.1 - Hands
Was
You must wear gloves made of at least abrasion-resistant material to cover your hands and fingers.
Now
It is recommended that your hands and fingers be covered by abrasion-resistant material, but is not required.
Functional change
You no longer have to have any form of hand protection. You can have bare skin.
Reason
To reduce the risk of heat injury, which has been occurring at a higher rate than abrasion injuries.
For notes
Following extensive experimentation across several kingdoms, the Society Fencing Marshals' Handbook was updated in January 2024 to reduce the level of armour required in fencing (but not Cut and Thrust) to support a reduction in heat injuries.